MEMBERS' QUESTION AND ANSWER SECTION
... need money to make money - thinking retirement - a "cartel" of investors...
QUESTION: Kandy writes...
"I'm not sure how this would fit into your newsletter but most of us know you have to have money to make money especially in the stock market, savings, buying and selling real estate, etc.
I guess I have two areas, what if you have to play catch up in order to retire comfortably but are not earning the salary to do that?
Thanks!"
Kandy
ANSWER:
"Hi Kandy,
Yes I agree that it is easier to have money to make more but... my experience tells me that people who HAVE money often lose it in business ventures.
Personally, I have made a lot of money in franchising. I get ideas. I make up systems. I PROVE that the system works then I sell off territories.
I'm not sure how old you are. I guess from the brief information that you have mentioned in your email that you are "approaching" retirement. I am also guessing that you are living in the USA. I am in Australia.
Now, don't take this as any personal advice because I am NOT a Financial Planner or an Accountant. However...
... I was able to [help two young people] to pool their resources and get them into a real estate investment property - nothing really big - just a starter. But, in the last 12 months that first little venture is now worth around $100,000 AUD more than what they paid. So, the upshot is that they now have around $50,000 extra in wealth each to what they had before.
Yes, it was a bit of a stretch for them. But they coped well. Apart from that - and this is a HUGE point that I try to make to everybody - they DID something. They didn't do what 95% of the population do. That is NOTHING. Most people do nothing and then they bemoan that they get nothing. Gee, it doesn't require a PhD to figure out why!
Real estate is the way that I personally have acquired much of my own wealth. [Among other things] it is the thing that I favor in my book "How to Save Thousands and Increase Your NET Wealth" Yes, there can be pitfalls but the way to do it is to educate yourself as much as possible in the real estate market and THEN, after you have that knowledge - go and find somebody who will help you.
That is, somebody who has done it themself - that would NOT be an accountant or a financial planner IF they have not done it themselves. These guys are great at working out numbers but too many people trust them for advice even when these "professional" people have had NO experience themselves. Does that make ANY sense to you? Coz it doesn't to me!
[Please take a look at what the Accountant wrote in the testimonials section of this site.]
Also, no PERSONAL sleight intended on anyone, BUT the absolute WORST people to seek [investment] advice from in real estate is Real Estate sales people [if and this is a big "IF" you don't believe that they are worthy of your trust]. Many only have their own commission in mind. Trust me, I have done the real estate course. I know how they are taught. You do get honest ones but their pocket is often the one that they want to look after FIRST. Not yours.
Many Real Estate agents will sell you anything - even the biggest LEMON that they have on their books. [Don't seek "investment" advice from an unqualified sales person... is that person an investor themself? That is always a good question to ask. See the testimonial from Cheri Merz on the testimonial page.]
This is getting a bit long so, I'll wind up. Have you considered E-Bay? I know a fairly senior couple who make their entire income from it. I think they do fairly well. You can always give it a try. [A young lady I know] has recently put about a dozen items up that she was simply going to throw out. I suggested she try e-bay.
Guess what? She sold about five items in less than a week and has made close to $200 (AUD). THAT is $200 that was going straight into the trash can. She sold an old cell phone, several dresses that she no longer wanted and some shoes. That sort of thing. Really, it was money for nothing.
You mentioned the stock market. I have made money in it but - if you read "Wealthy Minds" - you would know that I got severely bitten in my last transaction - all because I followed the wrong advice.
The stock market can be manipulated by the big players and Government policies. Personally, I have decided to stay away from it. There are far TOO many variables involved PLUS with shares "you cannot touch what you are buying." In real estate you can drive on over and look at your investment and you can TOUCH it. That is important to me.
The best [general] "advice" that I could give you is:
1 - education is ALWAYS very powerful - that is the FIRST thing that people, who want to make money, should do.
2 - start now - not next week, next month etc etc. The Chinese have a saying: "The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best time is NOW!"
OK. Sorry that this was so darn long.
Thanks Kandy for your email."
Best Wishes
Gary
RESPONSE: Kandy writes...
"Thanks, Gary!
You know...I was thinking of same thing in real estate. I would like to pool a couple of resources between friends, and find a nice little fixer upper and turn it, and then try that again.
I am [EARLY 50's] and becoming burned out in my chosen field of Human Resources plus I am not getting paid that well considering the length of time I have been in this career and I am tired of corporate America expecting more for less.
I think it may be time to begin that research and begin a little group to exchange ideas and hold each other accountable for our spending and saving.
Thanks, Good Day!!!!!"
Kandy
FINAL [GENERAL] COMMENT ON THIS EXCHANGE:
This is good. Action is going to be taken. When no action is taken - NOTHING happens.
Just a final suggestion - make sure that all partners have the same goal and expectations. Seek agreement that all input will be EQUAL - both in finance and effort. Write a contract if necessary. It doesn't have to be prepared by an attorney.
Getting written agreement from ALL partners on rights and responsibilities is a wise move before ANY definite action is taken. Issue a copy of the signed and dated agreement to all partners. Then, nobody will be able to come back with that little pearl... "I didn't know."
Even better than that - choose your intended partner(s) wisely. Going into business with somebody (and what you are thinking about IS business) is like entering into a marriage. Easy to get in... painful to get out. Enough said!
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